If you are using the neck, place in a medium sauce pan on the stove top with some cut up onion, cut up celery, fresh parsley and salt and pepper and water and cook for an hour or so until the neck meat can be removed. Save the broth and neck meat but discard the solids.

Preheat oven to 350 degrees F. and generously butter a 9X13 casserole dish.

Place all 8 tablespoons of butter in a large skillet over medium heat and once melted, add onions and celery and cook for just three minutes. Remove from heat and stir in the apple, salt, pepper and poultry seasoning. Pour half of this mixture into a large mixing bowl and hold on the other half.

Add half of the cubed bread to the bowl.

Crush the milk crackers by hand and add half a box to the large bowl.

Heat two cups of stock and pour into a medium bowl along with the remaining bread, remaining crackers and remaining cooked onion mixture.

You could use a food processor if you don’t own a grinder, but the texture is better ground. We have a food grinder attachment like this for our Kitchen Aid stand mixer. Put the plate with the large holes in place.

Place the large bowl underneath before grinding. Slowly feed the contents of the medium bowl through the grinder until all of the mixture has been ground into the bowl with the other ingredients. Add the cooked neck meat to the grinder if using and grind into the large bowl.

Stir in the beaten eggs.

On a cutting board, coarsely chop the entire jar of chestnuts, leaving some big pieces. Stir this into the large bowl.

At this point, use your judgment to add additional stock if the mixture is too dry. If too wet, stir in some dry bread or bread crumbs until the dressing has the consistency of a very thick batter. It should look really wet but it will firm up as it bakes.

Pour the batter into the prepared baking dish.

When stuffing is cooked in a turkey, it picks up all of the juices from the turkey as it roasts. However stuffing a turkey is not good because the stuffing sits for too long in the bird in the danger zone where bacteria can grow. So to combat dryness, I lay two boneless turkey thighs across the top of the stuffing so the juices from the meat drip down into the stuffing as it cooks. I bought two bone-in turkey thighs from my local supermarket and removed the bones.

After laying the optional thighs over the top, cover with parchment and foil and roast for one hour. After one hour, remove turkey meat, blot up any fat that pooled at the top and roast the stuffing for another 30 minutes uncovered. Use the cooked thighs for some other meal.

Let sit for ten minutes out of the oven to set up then spoon into a serving bowl.